After the pin is back into the slot, you may have to look into removing the pin in order to get it off the shaft. The odds are that youll be successful. Yes I know the shaft seal will be a bear to get out even chopped into pieces. The old style seal is very large and thick. And it penetrates excellently. Thanks so much to everyone that took time to try to help. Put a strap around the arm of puller so they dont slip off the gear. The one on the left is the PTO shaft for my brush hog and the one on the right is for my wood chipper. Heat the housing first then drive the pto shaft out the back? The brake plate tab and PTO clutch holder suffer wear. Established in 2009, we are the largest online community of Kubota tractor and equipment owners. Had friends help as well as the usual comments. You'll see a safety shroud covering this area. I would have just heated the seal. Bobby Ford Tractor and Equipment is here to serve you. I have removed four bolts on the back of tractor that covers the Pto shaft. Depress this button or pin with your thumb. To remedy such a problem of a PTO shaft getting stuck onto the tractor due to rust, you should lubricate the shaft with enough lubricating oil. JavaScript is disabled. In his free time, he enjoys building guns and hunting. JavaScript is disabled. The seal sits inside that. Good thing for the FEL, what a helper in getting the front drive shaft/tires out of the way. In such a case, you may try some of the following tricks and tips to disengage the PTO from the tractor: If the PTO shaft seems to be adamantly engaged to the tractor, you can force the issue and use a hammer to ease out the PTO shaft from the tractor. Ensure that you follow all the safety protocols and wear the necessary safety gear when engaged in the abovementioned methods for disengaging the PTO shaft. It's not rocket science so you shouldn't face huge problems. The abovementioned methods on disengaging the PTO shaft will only work well if the PTO shaft is still not broken or cracked. When I get that gear off and finally get the shaft out so I can get at the seal I think I'll use a speedi-sleeve with 2 new style SKF seals. I bought a new bolt like the one that holds the gear on. You might need to try disconnecting the outside rod and using vise grips to exercise the lever. If the cause of the jamming of the PTO shaft is corrosion, you can employ the lube method. I tried to do it by myself and it was a disaster Also I highly recommend you have a helper to keep the unit straight and apply heat if necessary , I would suggest heavy duty 3 jaw puller located into the three holes of the gear. Probably the key is partly sheared inside. For example, a 50:50 mixture of ATF and diesel Probably the key is partly sheared inside. She holds a bachelors degree from the University of Texas (hook em horns!) around the coupler (it could give you modest expansion). The other is for a PTO shifter. Lubes can be particularly effective for stuck tractor PTO Looks like it may have a pin or a bolt holding it on the shaft. PTO shaftsliding out in a short while. Just maybe I was meant to go down this road of taking the gear off because its seized on, and it shouldn't be. When I went to take my bush hog off the tractor (M5400) I could not get the mower shaft to disengage from the PTO. It has the plastic tube and plastic shield over the u-joint and I can't see what is going on there real well. Moreover, tractors with PTO driveshafts can pull any type of PTO-driven equipment. It is just a tin frame unlike the heavy shafts and castings. Finally, attempt to turn the PTO shaft manually. That way I could bottom out the bolt before it got against the gear. Sometimes you can tighten the bolts that go through the springs, (usually about 6 ) tighten each bolt an the same amount of turns to keep pressure even. The tin seal once heated would turn red real quick letting it be swagged with a punch while red letting it come out pretty easy with no more fooling around. But that would depend on the damage to the pin. You must log in or register to reply here. Mr. When I say rearword I mean the shaft come out towards the back of the tractor. If you do the abovementioned steps correctly, you will not experience excessive vibrations after the PTO shaft engages. When shifted the other way, it should be connected to the PTO driveshaft, clutch, and turn much harder. I have a heavy duty puller, a good grip on the gear, a 4' extension on the ratchet to turn the puller and heated the gear with propane torch (very hot) but not red hot. Point taken, except I'd have to burn out the rubber seal and the felt wiper. You can find the PTO switch on the dashboard. }, Throw down the PTO shaft and kick the tire hard enough that you will remember it for the rest of the day. Look at the yoke and see if the tractor pto shaft is sticking all the way thru toward the u-joint. Let the lube sits there for a while. Tip When Kubota PTO Will Not Engage: When you see the PTO indicator light illuminated, understand that the light represents the linkage. If your PTO shaft is stuck and youre using a tool to remove PTO Shaft and potentially seriously destroy the tractor. "@type": "Person", It might also be a bad clutch pack brake disc, which would not stop the clutch. With easy online ordering and same day shipping. I think autozone still rented them . Be prepared to apply and then reapply over a "name": "Yesterday's Tractor Co.", Dont get it red hot ,just heat . Refrain from disengaging the PTO shaft from a moving tractor, for it may cause severe injury or even death. Youll learn about some necessary identification steps to take and even where to go when service is required. Is it straight to where it could be removed over the spline if desired, or is it pressed up against a step, requiring it to be pressed inwards towards the tractor for removal? I do have the bushing off the hitch and the shaft into two pieces from the bushing. When the tail end of the mower and the front end of the tractor both go up, like crossing a depression, the driveline becomes shorter. The front half of the shaft is still attached to the tractor and I am not sure how to remove it, and the manual hasn't shown up yet. Afterward, you can get yourself a pry bar. Dont get it red hot ,just heat . Frankly before I would have taken all that apart. Do brand new lawn mower blades need to be sharpened? Look where the PTO shaft of the implement connects to the PTO spindle on the tractor. Then how do I pull it out with the shaft in my way? If that key is sheared it will not allow the gear to come off shaft. Thanks, that makes sense. Use materials with lubricating Copyright 2023 Leaf Group Ltd. / Leaf Group Media, All Rights Reserved. I can only imagine the bill at a dealership. Your tractors model will factor in here, but well give some troubleshooting ideas for a Kubota tractor PTO not engaging fully. You must log in or register to reply here. and enjoys scuba diving, lake activities, organizing, and interior design. Stay tuned for episode 3 coming up later. I would have just heated the seal. This is a difficult job! Tractors with power take-off (PTO) driveshafts pull all types of PTO shaft-driven implements. In this way, you can ease it out of its engagement. If that key is sheared it will not allow the gear to come off shaft. On this size machine, this is actually a fairly simple process. If this is the case, a visual inspection would be necessary. Has anyone removed a PTO shaft from a older Kubota? In this section, well provide detailed answers to the questions listed above. Moreover, you may end up with a damaged PTO shaft and tractor. Was prepared to split the tractor first thing in the morning. Just a thought 2012 Kubota L3800 HST W/FEL and 1963 JD 2010 row crop utility. Then you can use a punch or such to drive the seal out towards the rear also. "@type": "InteractionCounter", ", To check things out yourself, examine the hand lever for the clutch. "logo": { Mon Fri: 8 a.m. 6:30 p.m. However, its brake is still engaged. It's going to be tuff to get that gear off but I have done it. If the RPMs are changing the engagement, it could be a weak seal. A locking pin or button locks the two together. The pto shaft is held in the front by a washer and a nut. Do I take the gear off so the shaft comes out the front? The thing is, you need to dismantle any stubborn locking mechanism. Ensure that no one is at risk of being hurt or injured accidentally by the PTO engagement. However, if the shaft doesnt break loose, you "@type": "Organization", Yes I know the shaft seal will be a bear to get out even chopped into pieces. Ensure that you open its guard cover fully to ensure that the grease is flowing across its bearings. Kinley is one of our Parts Counter Personnel and a Certified Kubota Parts Pro. Last resort is to drill it out and retap with a larger set screw. I have noticed a couple times that the pin on the shaft will stick letting it slide past the groove on the pto shaft. The old style seal is very large and thick. recommended maintenance procedures. "@id": "https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/" Sat: 8:00 a.m. 4:00 p.m. Sun: Closed, Mon Fri: 7:30 a.m. 5:30 p.m. tractor and I hope that this article has made ita bitsimple for Looks like the seal could come out frontwards but I have no way to grab it or push it out. Its all internal, and it consists of a clutch pack that is certainly replaceable. On the other hand, when the flow and pressure decrease, its engaging again. I had to cut of a large portion of the protective plastic shield (bell portion) because there was no way to get your hand inside it to push the release pin and slide the driveshaft off. Brynna is our Office Manager. I would think there is a clip on the shaft also. The PTO shaft transfers this mechanical power to the implement to make it operational. Hopefully, it should be move without putting a lot of strain Kubota tractor PTO not engaging? Alyssa is our Service Adviser and Certified Kubota Parts Pro. Often the PTO clutching rings and shaft need replaced because people use their tractors to run their 4-5 feet garden tillers and bush hogs without a slip clutch. Our team independently selects, reviews, and identifies the best products. "@type": "ImageObject", Also, if the PTO clutch and gearbox are engaged, and the PTO still does not turn, then your problem is likely extensive. The idea is to drive whatever locking mechanism Should I heat the whole housing up? have to be content with sacrificing the coupler. Then, try to disengage the PTO shaft again. There is a snap ring shown on the parts diagram, but it is shown holding a bearing in place that should come out with the rear flange. Look at the practicability, cost, and above all, your safety Then how do I pull it out with the shaft in my way? Youll notice the driveshaft running from the clutch at the engine over to the gearbox at the back of your tractor. I had one on the super that would not move it took a tremendous a lot of heat . As Charlie said, the big gear has to come off then the shaft will slide out rearword. you. Orin is an Assembler at Bobby Ford Tractor and Equipment and is currently a student at BCC. Though the turning is not forceful, it is sometimes enough to turn the attachment (whether a post hole digger or winch). "@type": "WebPage", OrangeTractorTalks brings together Kubota enthusiasts from around the world, into one place, purpose built just for them. The shaft should slide off of the PTO splines. Here are a couple of suggestions. } "dateModified": "2023-04-28", Kubota Tractor PTO Problems Tip: This problem occurs when a bush hog, for instance, is shut off when the power is cut from the PTO. These tractor powershift transmission troubleshooting tips will help. Brake Pedal Goes to Floor But No Leaks: Why? There is a online manuals that you can get to see a exploded view of that machine. 1953 Minneapolis Moline ZAU. The three speed pto and power steering have made it more difficult. If floating is the problem, then the brake will be damaged, and it will never stop the way its intended to. Mr. This is because you dont need to step on the clutch pedal to accomplish it. Is it straight to where it could be removed over the spline if desired, or is it pressed up against a step, requiring it to be pressed inwards towards the tractor for removal? Remove four bolts and pull out. I have a question about the seal bore. Now you can get a long pry bar or even two in there. Our experienced staff can help. And now Billy is our Delivery Driver and holds a CDL. The seal sits inside that. Afterward, you can set to ON the PTO switch. Check the yoke real close. I have a new B7500 with a mid mount mower. However, if the hammering doesnt work, you can apply more momentum to your hammer to wiggle free the stuck PTO shaft. Then, dismantle the PTO shield. My pto shaft was shot also. If you have any further questions or concerns beyond what this article covers, check out Bobby Fords Kubota tractor repair. This method may backfire and cause injuries. Ed is one of our Technicians at Bobby Ford Tractor and Equipment. it that isnt working,stop. You "image": { When you raise the mower the shaft gets in a bind and jams the release pin into the tractor's shaft. That linkage may be bent and could certainly be prohibiting the clutch from engaging. You have to pull the gear on the inside and the shaft will slide out. Called dealer who sold me the seals but this tractor was to old for any of their people to have worked on. Kameryn also enjoys hunting, fishing, cooking, Texas BBQ, and riding his motorcycle across the country. Sat: 8:00 a.m. 3:00 p.m. Sun: Closed. If you are unsuccessful with all these methods, you can find a good grinder to cut everything apart. You must pull this gear straight down the axis to shaft if not you grab and Gaul shaft ,. He holds a Business Degree from St. Edwards University, and his interests include fishing, golfing, and playing video games. Ensure the motor isn't running before climbing out of the vehicle by listening and looking at your oil pressure gauge. Tractor Seats; Trans and Rear Axle; Umbrellas and Buggy Tops; Weld-on Axles & Hubs; Combine Parts. Hi, I just got my first tractor, a used L3410 GST. Soak it with rust solvent and first try a hex wrench. "height": 57 The seal I ruined with the too long pto shaft is apparently supposed to be driven over the pto from the outside. However, the turning continues when the engine speed dips below 1000 RPM. Dave I have a question about the seal bore. Afterward, let it sit there for a while before attempting to pull it off the tractor. of sitting. "datePublished": "2023-04-28", Lastly, ensure that you check the PTO safety guards for any damage. How Can You Remove the PTO Shaft from Your Tractor? . He is in AB Canada, While I am from Dayton Ohio. Another way you can check to be sure it is the clutch pack (because it could be the drive chain jumped off), raise and block up the tiller so it cannot fall, shut tractor completely off and . Most likely, there is a poor adjustment on the PTO control valve that permits it to only partially engage or float. On a ford this simply pulls out of the tractor. Grease the splines on the tractor's driveshaft spindle to make installation and removal of the PTO shaft easier. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Roger is one of our Technicians and has 20+ years of equipment experience. I just did the same seal on my Super C. Pull that gear off, mine wasn t terrible. I can only imagine the bill at a dealership. Refrain from forcing or wrestling the shaft away from the tractor by using a chain to tie up the PTO coupler, then driving forward the tractor to disengage the PTO coupler. So, I ended up sliding the drive shaft apart to allow removal of the mower deck. No go. Had to line up three splined shafts at once when putting the two tractor halfs back together. When a PTO shaft jams, it refuses to uncouple from your Garrett is one of our Sales Representatives and has been with Bobby Ford Tractor and Equipment for five years. even though its the most dependable solution if your shaft is slightly deformed. Homestead Mike 1.59K subscribers Subscribe 54 Share 8.1K views 2 years ago Don't forget to subscribe:) I recently. Afterward, you should flip to theONposition the PTO switch. the suggested procedures. If the shaft has slid forward further then it should, then the locking pin is probably bound into the metal on the tractor side of the slot. Joe is one of our Technicians and has 20+ years of heavy truck/tractor tech experience. What's happ. We may earn affiliate commissions on purchases made from links on this page. It would be very tough to pull from the outside. Pry Bar method to remove PTO shaft stuck on tractor Another method that helps when PTO shaft wont slide is dismantling the assembly. Put a strap around the arm of puller so they dont slip off the gear. The tin seal once heated would turn red real quick letting it be swagged with a punch while red letting it come out pretty easy with no more fooling around. Many have broken that gear trying to get it off. Ensure that you turn off the tractors engine before you even dare remove the PTO shaft from it. I used that pilot hole to center my 3 jaw puller. 3. You need to rotate gear so they line and then pull the gear carefully off the shaft. If the shaft wont yet be persuaded to get out even after There will be instances when the abovementioned steps seem to fail in removing the PTO from the tractor. Anyone know a helpful dealership? But when using more force, you should take extra precautions to avoid destroying the components of the shaft, including its bearings and other parts. Dave When I say rearword I mean the shaft come out towards the back of the tractor. OrangeTractorTalks brings together Kubota enthusiasts from around the world, into one place, purpose built just for them. Today I'll give you some tips that will allow you to get the PTO to extend without breaking your back or damaging the yoke.LINKS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUTThe Tractor Fun Store: https://asktractormike.com/products-for-sale/Support the Tractor Mike Channel: https://www.patreon.com/TractorMikeVisit the Tractor Mike website: http://asktractormike.com/ Visit Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/Ask-Tractor-Mike-312112962245304/Copyright 2019 Tractor Mike LLC Be sure you understand that the pto yoke can slide forward and backward along the pto shaft of the tractor- as long as the pin is pushed in (the correct amount). Penetrating oil may take some time to show its effect on the rusting PTO shaft. The pully seal was similar difficulty. So, it will help to reapply it over and over again. Dave As Charlie said, the big gear has to come off then the shaft will slide out rearword. Thanks, that makes sense. When the tractors PTO driveshaft engages with the implements PTO shaft, the shaft rotates around one thousand times every minute. It will likely come off hard most of the way. The 3 jaws fit into the holes in the gear. that we are here, I must mention that penetrating oil like PB Blaster might He holds an Associate of Applied Science from Brazosport College. I used the original bolt to bolt the gear back on. The tin seal once heated would turn red real quick letting it be swagged with a punch while red letting it come out pretty easy with no more fooling around. Unhook any safety chains holding the shrouds on the shaft to the tractor. Service Man Vic returned a call that I had placed to him. precautionary reasons- gently and see if it will loosen it. Which way does the PTO shaft come out, front or backwards? Adam is our General Manager. I had to cut of a large portion of the protective plastic shield (bell portion) because there was no way to get your hand inside it to push the release pin and slide the driveshaft off. The PTO shaft is super important to the proper operation of surely know that its cheaper to replace the coupler or even the entire shaft I bought a new bolt like the one that holds the gear on. Get it fixed as soon as you can. Browse the site of the best Texas Kubota Dealer around! To begin, make sure you can extend and contract the equipment's PTO shaft freely. You are using an out of date browser. "headline":"Farmall C PTO shaft seal part 2", ", The three speed pto and power steering have made it more difficult. In his free time, Christian enjoys working with equipment and vehicles. You could have a bad clutch pack, but its very unlikely that its leaky. I'm onto phase 3 with this challenge. Yet, this type of independent PTOs comes with the risk of accidentally engaging the PTOs. Do You Add Coolant to Radiator or Reservoir? In fact, none of the attached equipment will work if it has day or two. If you have to, remove the remaining part if it is stuck to the tractor, by soaking with penetrating oil, and or, pulling it off with the same method as above, or by cutting a slot, in the female coupling with an exhaust cutter, and then pulling. tractor by chaining the PTO coupler then driving the tractor forward to create You have to pull the gear on the inside and the shaft will slide out. Not much fun and still do not have pto out of tractor. I used that pilot hole to center my 3 jaw puller. The housing for this seal may be to damaged for it to seat properly. Kamryn is one of our Parts Counter Personnel and a Certified Kubota Parts Pro. Is the key sheared ? But if the shaft doesnt budge, you need to sacrifice the coupler, yet you should do it as a last resort. Called West Kentucky Tractor parts and they thought it should be a five minute job. I have a question about the seal bore. The drive shaft actually comes apart. The Power Take-Off driveshafts provide power to your piece of equipment, and this equipment could be a rotary motor or a rotary tiller, or any other implement. "description":"Discussion of Farmall C PTO shaft seal part 2 in the Farmall & IHC Tractors forum followed by comments. In her free time, she enjoys makeup, cooking, and being an aspiring comedian. Then the entire cover slides off. All I wanted to accomplish was to replace a leaking shaft seal. If you found yourself caught up in this mechanism, escape would be unlikely. Finished replacing pto shaft seal, two days of work. That way I could bottom out the bolt before it got against the gear. Glad you got it back together. I suggest you heat the gear so it will release from shaft and pull easy. 4. Wipe your forehead with your sleeve, yell at the dog, promise a kick in the pills to the unfortunate inventor of this contraption then go get a drink of water. I noticed on the gear someone touched it with a welding rod perhaps to heat it up I suspect. Place the vehicle's transmission gear in park. picture 2. Simply attach the male plate of the PTO Link to your implement's drive-line then attach the female plate of the PTO Link to the tractor's PTO spline. The PTO Link system turns what is normally a difficult and time consuming process into an easy task. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V. Pry Bar method to remove PTO shaft stuck on tractor, How to remove a PTO shaft from a tractor : Useful tips, How to Decrease Water Pressure in the Garden Hose, How to Make a Homemade Compost Accelerator, How to test a voltage regulator on a lawn mower, Umbrella for riding lawn mower/universal lawn tractor sunshade. Always consult equipment operator's manual and follow safety instructions before operating or servicing any tractor or equipment, or attempting any task. works well if properly mixed. In this way, you can ease it out of its engagement. Then you can use a punch or such to drive the seal out towards the rear also. Refrain from damaging the tractors PTO gears, for it is more expensive to replace than the coupler. Remove the PTO shield from the tractor. Put a strap around the arm of puller so they dont slip off the gear. I remembered I bought a longer bolt than the original to pull against. happen if you have run it without grease for long. Steps: Knock the pins out to have more working room. Today youll discover some common Kubota tractor PTO (power take-off) issues and how to troubleshoot them. Ensure the motor isn't running before climbing out of the vehicle by listening and looking at your oil pressure gauge. That said, theres no shortage of DIY methods out there and "interactionStatistic": { I drilled a pilot hole(counter sink) in the center of the new bolt. You need to rotate gear so they line and then pull the gear carefully off the shaft. Tried to use slide hammer to pull PTO from tractor. Another method that helps when PTO shaft wont slide is 2023 TractorByNet.com | TractorByNet is a registered trademark of IMC Digital Universe, Inc. Other trademarks on this page are the property of their respective owners. When I say rearword I mean the shaft come out towards the back of the tractor. You can also use WD40 to soak the stubborn parts. Thank you treemonkey ! I tried to do it by myself and it was a disaster Also I highly recommend you have a helper to keep the unit straight and apply heat if necessary , All I wanted to accomplish was to replace a leaking shaft seal. . "@id":"https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=farmall&th=1149189", Its not "name": "Smarten_up" The combo of light taps and heat will make the stubborn PTO shaft give in. Its inside, and the process to fix it will be extremely involved. Probably the key is partly sheared inside. You dont have to hit the PTO with so much force. I would have just heated the seal. Had to do this to split the tractor. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I had the same problem puting the deck back on. there. The BX Kubota is really tight area to access easily and can be very frustrating when either connecting or disconnecting the drive shaft on the pto. These locking mechanisms may be pins or balls. In this case, work the heat (a torch would suffice for theheat) all around quickly then try to strike the PTO coupling once again all around to help make it move. Rosie is our Receptionist at Bobby Ford Tractor and Equipment. Along the way, youll even notice a few tips about prevention and maintenance. Brakes Making Noise When Stopping: Causes and Solutions. into the open space. Kameryn is one of our Sales Representatives and also a certified MIG and stick welder. shafts where the cause of the jamming is rust, something which is bound to For this reason, its crucial that you observe the The PTO shaft provides the implement with mechanical operating power.
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