Minimum connection times at the John F Kennedy Airport in New York can be as low as 30 minutes for domestic flights (if you're flying the same airline). Hi Priscilla British Airways uses terminal 8 at JFK, and Delta uses terminal 4, so you will have to change terminals. Should I expect separate entry lines with TSA Pre or will there be individual check in kiosks? We don't care if the passengers make the flight! The fly was 1 hour late so when we arrived I had 45 minutes to pick up my luggage, go through customs and check it in again for my second fly. One has to clear security again with a terminal change regardless of domestic-domestic or domestic-international, correct ? We will have carryon nothing checked. It would be probably too difficult to use Air Train. MCTs are vastly different around the globe for example, the MCT in Helsinki for a domestic to domestic connection is 20 minutes, while the MCT in Mexico City for an international to international connection is 120 minutes. And I'm talking as flying about an average of 400k miles a year, so yes, I have had some luck. You should have enough time to meet your friend IMHO. Needles to say the pain was unbearable and had to take time off and deal with medical bills. I have decided to stop flying American Airlines because of other things they did which to me seemed quite abhorrent. It takes at least 10 min to get anywhere on the skytrain. take your overhead into consideration. Each airline sets standard minimum connecting times at each hub it serves. So I booked the same itinerary again for this Thanksgiving, but I recently looked at it again and it only had a 45 minute connection time in DOH! You gotta be stupid if you are trying to connect in a large urban airport for under an hour domestically. Do we have time enough? Agreed, they need to redo these. If I miss the connecting flight, I will have to wait 25 hours at DOH, and I cannot enter the country for a hotel because of the World Cup. Hi Barbara yes, you could probably take a taxi to get from one terminal to another, but it will be extremely inconvenient for them due to how short of a trip it is. Plus there is no trip though security on a connection. And because youll go through US customs and immigration prior to departing YYZ, youll arrive at JFK as if it were a domestic US flight. Love this! I looked at map of T4 and found both gates but cant find customs at T4! If I have been on a given route and have reason to believe I won't have to change terminals, I might risk booking a slightly shorter connection. Fingers crossed and will probably remain crossed until we actually board the plane. You can land early but the time you get to a gate that's open and the jet bridge gets attached you're 10 minutes late. It stinks. I ask because Im wondering why one would be going through additional TSA screening while on connection, from one secure area to another. Keep in mind that just because you can book an itinerary with the minimum connection time doesnt mean that you should. I am thinking of doing ICN-JFK-BDA with KE and DL. Just wondering time being limited if we told someone at the terminal that we had a time issue would we have a chance of being ushered to the front? You will NOT make a 25 minute connection. Often, after booking, AA will change my outbound flights forcing a tight connection and I have to phone to change it My personal policy outbound on international itineraries is 2 hours +/- 15 minutes MCT given that my international flight, if a misconnect occurs, forces a 24 hour delay. Yes, because your entire itinerary is part of the same ticket, your luggage will transfer automatically (you wont have to retrieve and recheck it at JFK). Youre welcome Jim! Why do airlines sell connections like this? I had to be on board at 9:35 p.m Absolutely absurd especially now when such a large percentage of flights are late. American Airlines has a 25-minute minimum connection time at Austin Airport. Usually time for a bathroom stop and thats it. This sounds like a leisure approach. The short connection times have just reinforced my reasons for avoiding American! 4:35 am to 3:25 pm. There is no designated international terminal at the John F. Kennedy Airport. 2 and a half hours will be more than enough time! Within the U.S. - at least 2 hours Outside the U.S. - at least 3 hours Check if your destination has travel restrictions. For layovers of under an hours the plan A is to miss the flight and the plan B is not to miss the flight. If your destination requires specific travel documents, remember to bring a completed copy with you to the airport. The airline may or may not provide a hotel. The following is a detailed breakdown of exactly how long itll take you to make connections at JFK for nearly any situation (based on my own personal experience). Youll want to get off that flight from Milan as fast as you can though, because theres no telling how long itll take you to get through customs and immigration. I want to book a flight from MIA to Prague and there is only 46 minutes connection time in JFK. For instance CM at PTY does 40 min connections, including to some US destinations (e.g. Hi Scott, Thanks for this review. Even though we boarded the first flight on time the captain said charlotte had closed two runways and our connections will also be delayed. to Int. Well, don't know how that works in the US but back in time I was Flying BRU-LIS-GRU with a theoretical stop over in LIS of about 2hrs (which in practice was/is always much more). Outside of banner ads published through the Boarding Area network, this compensation does not impact how and where products appear on this site. Hi. I wouldnt want to do an International to domestic transfer at JFK (one that required a terminal change) in less than 3 hours. This is the first time I've EVER arrived home at a gate below 19 on AA - but I've frequently come into Gate 34 at the other end of the airport. I was stunned when I realized I had booked Palm Springs to Boston through Phoenix with the 25 minutes MCT. Hi! The Fun Fact about MCT is the time is from the arrival to the actual departure time. Right across the hallway at T-20 and I was first off the plane. LIS was adviced by BRU that we had that delay and so suspend our next leg. Theres no need to add to the stress by having short connection time. Also check your racism while you're at it as well. nwadeicer, thank you for the additional information. There are 5 passenger terminals at JFK. The 14 days begins from the date you left the country you connected in. I wasn't going to check anything because of the short connection. JFK transfers if you would: A domestic international connection (no terminal change), with checked baggage. Sounds like you just have a racism issue. My home airport is Phoenix, 25 MCT is crazy if you are trying to get from the High number A gates to any of the B gates or vise versa, even if your 1st class it would still be a dash. Down to :30 minutes to make the connection - or :20, to boarding ending. This is so obnoxious. Inexperienced flyers don't look closely at the connection time and book the flight. Id try to get a longer layover if possible, but it wont be the end of the world if you cant. Thank you. AA typically will offer a great fare but a short connection. 46 minutes is enough time since youll be arriving and departing out of Terminal 4 at JFK. On the other hand, Id probably view a 25-minute connection in Austin the same as a 40-minute connection in Dallas, in terms of risk of misconnecting. Have booked some really cheap awards and ultimately ended up getting a much more favorable schedule. I believe atleast 1.30 hrs connection time is safe for big terminals. Hi Mae if you wont have to retrieve any luggage and/or check in for your connecting flight in Terminal 1, youll have plenty of time (and it wont be all that stressful). Personally, thats cutting it a little bit too close, but its entirely possible if you hustle. Traveling is stressful enough most of the time. I was going from LGA to ORD with 30min connection in PHL. I have it, and theres only been one instance in my last few years of travel where the regular security line was faster. The customs and immigration facilities at this airport are extremely large and state of the art, but that doesnt always mean that its fast and efficient. How about when the first leg is 2 hr late? There's also little to no chance of them holding the departure for you anymore. Flight attendants tried to calm me but.they confessed that it was just a couple of gates shy of the longest distance I could walk between the terminals. check back later." The agent 2 Hours Before Departure. Naturally we didnt make our connection back to Ohare ! International to domestic will require nearly all of that 1 hour and 25 minutes IMHO since youll have to do the customs/immigration thing. As the name suggests, this is the minimum amount of time that you need to plan for a connection at an airport, as an airline wont sell you a shorter connection than that. I avoid booking any connection where - assuming my flight is on time - I wont be able to get to the gate before boarding starts. How much additional time would you suggest for retrieving & re-checking a bag? Seriously the entire flight had already arrived at sat down before me so I knew I wasn't stealing a seat from someone who needed it more and again there were multiple empty handicap seats right next to it. I don't even think that is allowed for Int. AA sold me a MCT in ORD changing to Madrid on Iberia. Hi Liz the nationality of your passports wont matter in your case. This is a general issue, not limited to AA or to AUS airport. Would you book an itinerary like this? WILDCARD: if youre traveling alone and are worried about your connection, try to book a seat in the front half of the plane. Our connecting flight is departing at 10:29pm on JetBlue. Will update the post to reflect that, thanks. Hi Scott, I have a rescheduled flight and now I arrive from Milan (Italy) to JFK with American Airlines and I need to take the next flight to LAX, still American Airlines, with 1h 25m of layover. . That's sad and what's wrong with the world. Once clearing customs, you will be released into the arrivals area of T4. We recommend you arrive to the airport at least 3 hours before your scheduled departure for international flights. I got wheelchair service and got to the gate at 9:20. Hi Leyi youre very welcome! As long as I didnt have to switch terminals, my personal minimum connection time for a domestic to international flight at JFK would be 1 hour and 10 minutes. Clearly you don't fly American because American rarely will hold a flight. We arrive in JFK terminal 4 from Brussels (Belgium) at 1:30 pm with Delta. We are 3 adults from UK coming from Dallas then on to Heathrow. Do you think we will have enough time to get off one flight and onto our connecting flight in 30 minutes with JetBlue? I think it would be a relatively stress free experience with a 3 hour layover. I'd rather not be sitting there with blood pressure rising waiting for doors to open on the inbound flight which often takes more than 15 minutes to deplane. What I have observed is that if you want a longer connection time, then there is a cost increase associated with that convenience. There's nothing to "believe" about Pre Check. And try running through Charlotte with the crowds of people who take their sweet time. I would say you could do a 25 minute connection if your flight was on time. Minimum Connecting Time Technical Guide Page 7 of 17 B. It has taken us a very long time on AA recently when you have your own device (we have a mobility scooter). There was only one catch the connection time in Austin was just 25 minutes. Nos ha pasado 2 veces viajando desde Orlando hacia Bogota. Hi Scott, I will arrive at JFK at terminal 4 and have 3 hours before departure the international flight at Terminal 1. After booking I became aware that even though we connecting at JFK and not leaving the airport we need to clear . AA has been offering itins with ridiculously short "please misconnect me" itins to me for months now, including 25-minute connection times in PHX and 35 to 55 minute connection times elsewhere. Is this a legal connection? Hi Cindy yup, with no checked luggage and Global Entry, youll have no issues at all. Were you flying international or domestically to a smaller service airport? I'd be pissed if I was an AA employee, too. Just walk from one plane to the next no security checks will be required. Not having checked luggage will make it a lot easier for sure. It's taken so long since COVID that we are often the only ones on board with the FAs and they serve us snacks from First Class, and the cleaners are on board and have to clean around us. Of course, just as I suspected, my luggage hadn't arrived at GRU. Each airport has its own list of minimum connection times. Its about 40 min which includes getting off the plane. Could take 10 minutes, or it could take an hour. If We had almost the same problem with American Airlines coming from the Bahamas to Miami ! Was very glad my check-in bag did make it to the final destination. You can make it, but youre going to have to hustle! Recently, I had a :36 minute connection time at LAX - :26 minutes if you factor when boarding ends. Ben, I agree. However, for the sake of preserving your sanity, youre probably going to want a little more time than that. Ellos hacen conexion en Miami y se nos ha retrasado el vuelo de Orlando entonces cuando eso sucede , nos quedamos de la conexion. Your feedback is important in helping us keep our community safe. Which happens to end good for me and 5 other people who I invited as my "friends" to board the flight. Hi Scott! Most helpful comments ( as chosen by the OMAAT community ). But I need to mention, never ever the flight departed on time. The times I had those connections (with checked luggage) I never missed one connection neighter luggage at arrival. There was a passenger in a rush to avoid missing her connection and pleaded with the lady to let her get her case and the bitch wouldn't do it so the passenger shoves her aside and grabs her suitcase and rushes off. I almost got run over by a fellow passenger after arriving in PHX last week. This means that you can just walk to your connecting gate without going through any additional checkpoints. American has always been weird this way. If your trying to get a plane in dallas or LA it takes more than 25 min. American Airlines is the absolute worst, run by brain dead fools. Also, dont get hung up on the fact that Terminals 3 and 6 are nonexistent. You need to be Using Bolt to make connections in some airports! Thank you! The big difference between a tight connection in Austin vs Dallas is Austin has far too few gates and you often are delayed waiting for your gate to free up from the last departing flight. If you have the dreaded 33B chair, ask the gate agent if anything has become available closer to the door. Because if you have to be re-accommodated unless you have top status or perhaps an AC membership the experience with AA will make you feel "punked.". I was quite unsure as to what I should do. I would contact QR and say due to them changing your flight you request your flights to be changed or refunded and point out that the connection time is probably in violation of rules (even check on them) or you could ask them to have someone meet you at the plane and get off first and have someone drive you through maybe. Coming back, the MCT at JFK depends on which airline (s) you're flying, but let's say 1:45 ( see info here ). The difference is that when things go wrong in Dallas, there are a lot more flights you can be rebooked on to get to your final destination. Study the terminal maps ahead of time, have a plan of attack, and good luck! The percentage of Delta flights that have gotten to my first hip on time is easily over 90%. You have to be trackstar to get around there. A 25 minute connection is ABSOLUTELY absurd! Find out more on gov.uk Airport Connections That means the very first stop after Terminal 1 is Terminal 8. While the minimum connection time for most airlines at Los Angeles (LAX) for a domestic to international flight is only 45 minutes, I give myself at least 2 hours if I am traveling on separate tickets. Thank you so much Scott!! Not sure it still the case. Min Time at Gate Before Departure. We have a domestic-international with terminal change, no checked bags, and we have TSA precheck, would 1 hour 40 min. We have a connecting flight in terminal 7 to Buenos Aires at 3:25 pm with Aerolinas Argentinas. It just leaves the front line employees there to clean up the mess I guess upper managements version of going for great / taking care of people on lifes journey is a lot different from ours. Airlines all publish minimum connection times (MCT). I was stunned when I realized I had booked Palm Springs to Boston through Phoenix with the 25 minutes MCT. Here's what the official rules are when booking: American: Reported to be 25 minutes. Apr 28, 2023, 12:18 PM. For the longest time I refused to fly on American because of the nasty attitudes of their staff (angry black bitches) and how they screwed me over multiple times. Ugh. I have good luck chatting through the app and I am not an elite. Have a good trip! Not gonna lie thats a connection that would make even my butt pucker a little (lol). The connection time was 80 minutes. Thank you very much for your input. American's ground staff get stuck dealing with the chaos. 25-minute layovers arent well suited for your checked luggage. FYI, asking the TSA (or any airport employee) to move you to the front of the line wont work. However, my minimum would be 1 hour just so I would have enough time to relax and grab a bite to eat. My rule is two hours minimum for domestic and three hours international as you never know if the first leg will fly on time or if you can deplane in a timely manner so you can try to catch the second leg. Do you know if I have to get my bags re checked and if I have to go through security again in JFK? Based on my own experience, heres how long it usually takes me to move from one terminal to the next at JFK using the AirTrain (the Airline Terminals Train): Before I started flying on a somewhat regular basis, I always overestimated how much time I would need for a connection at JFK. We have checked luggage. I call again and yet another A.B.B. Travelling with Miles? And with flights still full it's doubtful there's going to be an open seat towards the front of the plane available at the gate. If anything goes wrong, then AA could just send me through Dallas. Hi Tracey domestic to international in an hour and a half will be super easy (just walk from one plane to the next). And it was one of their tiny ass planes where any roller suitcase gets valet sticker at gate. Despite its reputation for being one of the busiest and most congested airports in the world, JFK minimum connection times might be surprising to novice travelers. Landing from Milan at JFK at 6:55pm; I want to book a flight from JFK to Miami (final destination) thats at 8:30pm.is that cutting it way too close?? I've seen flights with connection times as short as 25 minutes. The issue is with mobility . Hi Sofia if the entire itinerary can be purchased together as a single ticket, that means that the first flight will be operated by Delta (which is a partner of Air France). Basically making this connection requires (your inbound being on-time or early AND you're in row 1-3 AND your connecting flight is an adjacent gate) OR your outbound flight is delayed. Im getting too old for this OJ Simpson dashes. GRRRRRR. From Chicago to Europe they often sell flights via New York. Thank you again for your answer! I figured I was OK because I was traveling first class, and I have global pass. :), watching your plane sit at the gate going nowhere with the jetbridge disconnected is pure heartbreak. Typically first or first few rows of economy. Domestic to international all within terminal 8 in 1.5 hours? You're connection is likely really only 25mins as AA will make every effort to close your departing flight ten (10) mins early. The airline doesnt want to pay you a family full of vouchers and potential hotel stays if they can avoid it. We were about 10 minutes late and I made it on the next plane just as they made the final boarding call and passengers on that flight giving me dirty looks thinking I'm just lollygagging and holding them up. He doesn't say a word just starts typing away then he hands me a ticket for a flight leaving within the hour. They are all separate buildings, connected by an inter-terminal train (the AirTrain). Hi Carole if youre flying American Airlines the entire way (DFW-JFK-LHR), you wont have to switch terminals at JFK. Will be arriving and departing from Terminal 8 at JFK and its all part of the same ticket under AA. (Which I'm not inherently against, though some have gotten patently ridiculous.) The individual airlines all have a certain set of gates they lease and they're all clumped together. Its not the motherf*****r that you think it is. The John F Kennedy Airport is in a constant state of evolution, and a lot has changed over the years (including the elimination and combination of some terminal buildings). The agent says well next time don't book flights so close together. And behind me were another 25 Clearly you don't fly American because American rarely will hold a flight. The listed minimum connection time in AMS for a non-Schengen to Schengen, Delta to KLM flight is 60 minutes ( see info here ). Yes absolutely. So I booked the same itinerary again for this Thanksgiving, but I recently looked at it again and it only had a 45 minute connection time in DOH! Hi Jay yes, you will need to go claim your checked luggage before going through customs (which will happen right after you clear passport control). Its ridiculous. I think youll be ok, but you will have to hustle. Hi Ingrid an hour and 45 minutes will be no problem considering that you wont have to change terminals. Airlines are supposed to allow a specific amount of time between connecting flights. Never mind that for Department of Transportation (DOT) purposes, flights are considered on-time if they arrive less than 15 minutes late. These times apply regardless of whether or not you are checking baggage. Agreed. Walking isnt always possible unless youre feeling especially courageous and willing to walk through dark parking lots and sketchy garages. There will be separate lines most of the time its clearly labeled, so itll make perfect sense once youre there. The anxiety was almost crippling as we landed in Phoenix. To be fair to you - assuming you're a front-line employee - literally ALL of the US3's policies that involve cost savings or "efficiency" are at the expense of the customer and leave front-line employees as the first/only line of defense against (rightfully) irate passengers. It's not like you'd get off an AA flight and have to take the tram to another concourse for your connection. Hi, were flying from Toronto to JFK (Feb 6, 2023) our first time to have layover in US, what do we need to provide . MAD-JFK-CLT. Toronto (YYZ): 90 minutes Arriving on a commmuter flight and connecting internationally is impossible in less than 1 hour, especially if you are a disabled wheel chair user. Great info can I ask a question Im travelling from UK (via Amsterdam) to JFK then on to Cincinnati (CVG) Let the buyer be ware! Just have to get past the A.B.B. I'm usually in the first cabin or close to the front, so that helps for sure. I made it with a 3 minutes to spare before them closing boarding but was soaked in sweat and felt like I had fast walked a 5k. And as a flight attendant..were the ones that deal with the unhappy fliers! It's not just AA. I recently waited for my valet checked bag at PHX with quite a few silly people that were trying to make a tight connection. Thank you! Thank you. An advantage of this would be access to cheaper fare inventory when the system creates a connecting itinerary. Dont know if we are going to make it. Even if you did, and hour and 15 minutes would still be doable. From New York to Raleigh, which departs from JFK (terminal 8) at 4:19pm EDT - operated by American Airlines. What is the minimum connection time for international flights at JFK? 2. @ Sel, D. -- Wow, good catch. I'm able bodied.I. Is three hours enough. If youve been to Miami International Airport , you know damn well you cant make that connection ! My American flights out of Knoxville usually connect in Charlotte, Dallas, or Chicago. On the one hand, a 25-minute MCT in Austin seems really aggressive. be okay in most cases ? You are just asking for misconnection! Thanks for providing such a great website for travelers to inquire about their travels!!!!! Accra, Ghana (ACC) 3-4 Hours Before Departure - Even if not Checking Bags. Making connections at the John F. Kennedy Airport in New York can be extremely calm and easy if you follow these steps: How about a domestic to international on separate tickets, different terminals, where youre picking up and rechecking bags? Your example itinerary is even scarier since it's an RJ to a mainline jet. Even if you cant get all the way to the front by asking, chances are good that youll be able to move ahead far enough to make a difference. Unless youre in 1st, always give yourself an hour between connections. Im asking partially bc we may try to meet a friend who happens to be staying nearby. Despite how much I love the JFK Airport for being one of the most efficient international gateways in the world, it has its flaws. We land late and the cranky lady takes her sweet time taking the suitcases off the rack. Down to :30 minutes to make the connection - or :20, to boarding ending. I'd rather not have to 2 stop a domestic trip. Also if I did miss the connecting flight would AA get me on the next available one as they are who the tickets are booked under via the travel agent? I would never book this, I think my average delay time on AA is >25 minutes, unless you assume your connecting flight's pushback is also subject to AA's MDT ("Minimum Delay Time") of 25 minutes. The fastest and most efficient way to move between most terminals at the JFK Airport is to use the AirTrain (there are stations located at each terminal). This is because of daylight savings time ending (moving the arrival one hour forward) and because of QR changing my connecting flights timings to 1 hour earlier (presumably because of the world cup and aircraft availability). I have a 2h:33m connection in JFK to my next flight, which is New York So Paulo which i am flyig LATAM. While I was one of the first off the plane and through Global Pass in minutes, my luggage took forever to get on the conveyor. Then still out of breath from running with heavy backpack with underlying asthma I sat in one of the MULTIPLE empty handicap seats nearby because I was too exhausted to go any further hoping to finally rest and catch my breath but of course the bitch decided AA hasn't ruined my day enough and comes over and tells me to vacate the seat as it's for handicap, I move to another seat and course never ever does come occupy those seats. By the way, while I still have your attention. Delta: 30-minute minimum connection time. 4 hours between arrival and departure. I avoid booking an intinerary that does not have at least an hour connection scheduled. Once I was seated in the plane it took one more hour for departure. 1 hour and 40 minutes will be easy! No problem! Here's the bottom line: the Official Airline Guide (OAG) indicates that at JFK, the minimum connection time from domestic to domestic is one hour and from domestic to international is one hour and fifteen minutes. document.getElementById( "ak_js" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The short connection times that AAL often books me in CLT always cause me to call and change, sometimes multiple times. Note that there are 3 separate AirTrain lines: the Airline Terminals Train, the Jamaica Station Train, and the Howard Beach Train. Try the connection in Chicago. As noted in the comments, the staff unfortunately pay the price of the poor planning. I'm guessing for them rebooting is easier than dealing with more complex computer programming. Flying DFW-JFK-LHR wont require going through customs / immigration. Hi Andrea an hour and 25 minutes is going to be tight, but the thing that will make it easy(ish) is the fact that you wont have to change terminals. It has taken us a very long time on AA recently when you have your own device (we have a mobility scooter). 45 minutes is a totally doable connection in Terminal 8 at JFK. If they are booked on the same ticket, then the airlines won't give you an illegal connecting time. If youre traveling with a five year old who MUST go potty, the most irrational and foolish gambit one take is to minimize that urgency and contend with the consequences on the next airplane.
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