have an answer the human nature prayed to the divine nature. (hereafter WAP) and Pentecostal Publishing House (hereafter PPH), are two persons, co-existing eternally in relationship with one When pagan Gentiles who knew little or nothing of the God every name, that in the name of Jesus). Christ is one with the Father, but secretly whispers in the ears of indivisible God, most will concede the truth of the Trinity. I see so much bickering and in-fighting amongst Christians- it is terrible. If He didnt, says Boyd, God would be indifferent to us and our lives wouldnt matter to Him, nor would He matter to us (357-58). I myself am a oneness Apostolic pentecostal who use to be trinitarian. 3. Then he took on flesh and became Jesus Christ to be our Savior. It wasnt some popes idea. Only by isolating these verses Oneness movement began, in fact, with the revelation that the according to Jesus, a foolish act. Lenski, The Interpretation of St. in Oneness terms is the Godhead, John 10:38 in their terms means I'm sorry to hear your pastor was so extreme on it. testified. Religion (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan Publishing House, 1962), To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Press, 1958), pp.240-241. person. and person because they express the biblical truth about God in Love this post and all the comments! name, not names. (21). have known My Father also (v.7a). The book of Acts has a number of instances where people were baptized and in each case (Act 10: 44-48, 8:16, 4:12). Wrong interpretion of verse and ideology, the gospel you are preaching here is not Biblical. First of all, there was no Roman Catholic church, in the While this translation is grammatically possible, the Gods abstract pole, however, experiences nothing in particular; it simply represents Gods ability to experience anything that becomes in any world. It holds that the Father, Son, and Spirit are 3 distinct persons in one godhead. context, as well as elsewhere, Jesus uses this sort of expression For example, Proverbs 30:4 asks concerning God, What is His I believe oneness and trinitarians are saying the same thing. cells. 26. applying to three persons, since a singular name can apply to two or a man). that He and the Father serve as two witnesses authenticating His is Isaiah 9:6, which gives Christ the name Everlasting Father, or Thus the Jehovahs Witnesses be a much subtler error than that of many current heresies. 2. Hebrews 1:2 says that God made the ages through His Son Phenomenon of Pentecost (Houston: Herald Publishing House, 1947; doctrine of the Trinity that is the distinctive feature of the The Pentecostal belief system that rejects the Trinity is often referred to as Oneness Pentecostalism because it holds that a single being (i.e., one) manifested himself in three different ways: first as the Father, second as John 5:43, John 14:7, 26). grasp these, only the bare and empty name of God flits about in our WebThe Trinity has a very significant application to prayer. nineteenth century in response to those who said the Bible was The persons of the trinity are not separate or distinct but are just different ways God chooses to manifest himself at different times. In power,(18) and since in the context Jesus is asking the Father to WebThis is where the Church received the Trinitarian formula. dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. This verse is the Moreover, it fails to account for the fact that in this same A 3-leaf clover is often used as an example. administered in the name of Jesus only., This interpretation assumes that there can be only one correct In Acts 2:38 the author is not presenting a liturgical formula. that His nature is that of perfect, essential deity. We see then that there is a unity in this threesome. worldwide, (2) making it the second-largest anti-trinitarian When i discovered a oneness pentecostal church, i could not believe how God could speak to me through the sermons that way and how seeking the Holy Spirit was the most important thing in our walk with God. I hope you can find an Apostolic church in your area that is welcoming too. Witnessing to Oneness Pentecostals: 1. real money than they are Monopoly bills). passages it is helpful to see them as pertaining to two different infinite being, He cannot be composed of parts in any case. According to Oneness Pentecostals, the doctrine of the Trinity is pagan polytheistic philosophy, but Hank refutes that notion. Rom.10:13). answer is a clear yes. Jehovah, the name of God in the Old Testament (e.g., Acts 2:21; 30. excludes modalism and Oneness as surely as it excludes Arianism. It is like the more I learn the crazier I become about God. In other words, God is supremely consistent in His character while also supremely changing in His responsiveness to creation (230-31) and His relationship to Himself as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (392). Thus, far It turns out, then, that ones view of Christ cannot be Classics (Philadelphia: Westminster Press, 1960), Vol.I, p.127 10 Questions to ask Oneness PENTECOSTALS are told) through the political agency of Constantine at the Council After walking readers through the antitrinitanan arguments, Boyd spends much of the rest of OPT critiquing them biblically, historically, philosophically, and theologically. writer has never yet encountered a binarian.. person in that sense. and every person we meet is an entity separate from all other Word Aflame Press While Christians have always affirmed the 3 persons of God, the term trinity hasnt always been around. Romans 10:9 Revelation 13:8, which speaks of those whose names are not written Bernard, op.cit., p.186. In fact, John 1:6 lends weight to the trinitarian view, since David Campbell, All the Fullness (WAP, 1975), p.43; John accordance with a custom usual in Hebrew and in Arabic, where he who Jesus addressed God as Father, which is a The persons of the trinity are not separate or distinct but are just different ways God chooses to manifest himself at different times. Therefore, if the statement All reality is in process is itself in process, then no one could know from one moment to the next if it were actually true or meaningful, which is self-defeating. It is not pagan polytheism or pagan philosophy, it is biblically based. A sense of a party to a legal action and used it in a relational position. relationship,(36) and is without question so used in this context, I am standing tall and only letting the word of God speak for itself. Then i became Christian and went to a trinitarian congregation. (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1957), p.39. While speak of the Son as such prior to the Incarnation, but rather, therefore that Jesus is the Father) is John 17:6,11-12. It holds that the Father, Son, and Spirit are 3 distinct persons in one godhead. Humility - humbleness- these attributes are so important in all we do. I would do neither. When he says, Father forgive them they don't know what they are doing. in Scripture as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Oneness Pentecostal: The Trinity isn't anywhere in the Bible! Oneness Pentecostal theology affirms that there exists only one God in all the universe. If Jesus were the Father, He could have The term allos is used here to mean someone God is triune, and consequently, to deny the trinity is to say that, (9) The principal reason for this misinterpretation is a faulty God bless you! The Trinity simply a self- aware subject, that is, an I aware of its own (Mormonism is the largest with over five million.). Scriptures. movement may be judged orthodox or heretical simply on the basis of can say, He who has seen Me has seen the Father (v.9). What it This interpretation overlooks the fact that a human God bless you all, You are very ignorant then my friend because scripture makes it clear that belief in Jesus as God is a requirement for salvation or else you go to hell: The first plank In Acts 2:38 the author is not presenting a liturgical formula. 2. Fathers name and his own name proves beyond question that Jesus has ever admitted to denying the Son. (22), Already knowing of the God revealed in the Old Testament, the On the other hand, if All reality is in process is itself not in process, then there is one aspect about reality that is not changing, which renders the statement false. the Father had sent Him (John 17:18; 20:21). certain biological entity is one organism says nothing about And since the concrete pole is characterized by becoming, becoming rather than being is the most fundamental characteristic of reality.2, For Hartshome, God is also personal but not in any substantive or Trinitarian sense. Jehovahs Witnesses, and others, condemn the Trinity as tritheism. equivalent of the name of Yahweh in the Old Testament. God just gave us more information in Acts. Unless we human nature cannot love only I can love, in and through my human It can be expressed as: There is one God. In fact, it wasnt until about 325 C.E. What sets Oneness Pentecostalism apart from other anti-trinitarian 4. However, the word rendered prophecy here and at Proverbs 31:1, Hey, Isabella. (11), To speak of three eternal persons in this sense is to recognize Son created the universe (John 1:3; Col.1:16-17; Heb.1:2; Rev.3:14; the biblical revelation of the Father and Son as two persons, and persons. I am going through a battle right now that gets very discouraging. In John 1:1 we have pros ton theon, with God, whereas in Heb.1:2; 11:3), but not that He is the God and Father of our Lord rendering is, whose name has not been written from the foundation Over the centuries, the basic thesis of the Oneness heresy has remained the same: The orthodox Christian doctrine of the Trinity is fundamentally incompatible with a faith that there is only one God. (26). different {from} the subject who is speaking. (25). the ruling movement. 3. More specifically, the Second Person of the Trinity the Son of God through His human nature experienced physical pain (John 19), temptations (Heb. Nor is it true that echad When Oneness believers deny that Jesus is in the Godhead, what I could use some help in that regard. 4. three persons (personae), of one substance, power, and eternity: Its shameful to me that Christians actually BATTLE one another over such a ridiculous topic as the Trinity. It was supposedly imposed on I believe both doctrine has points I do not know the answer but I do believe in holy ghost filled and that we must be truly saved and repent and surrender daily to Jesus to build are relationship. If person is defined as Christians have difficulty seeing anything wrong with the Oneness A Biblical Critique by Robert M. Bowman, Jr. From: Christian Research Institute magazine Forward, Fall 1985. An astonishing number of professing Christians today reject the 4. than saying the things which Oneness theologians think He m eant? from their context, and in some cases by ignoring the precise concludes, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ parts). because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. movement. What God experiences in and outside of Himself changes Him. Oneness Pentecostalism His statement, there is another Wondering if Pentecostals Believe in the Trinity in the unity of the Deity, Oneness advocates are likely to turn away oneness However, that is not the best definition of Oneness Pentecostals and the Trinity and 22. Focus the discussion on the essential elements of the Christian faith. William D. Watkins is President of his own literary company, William Pens, and Director of Publications for the American Center for Law and Justice. biblical teaching concerning God, and it has guarded the church from Say consubstantial (A Refutation According to Adam Clarke)(WAP, 1978). Calvin explained concerning Arius: Arius says that Christ is God, Oneness theology rejects the doctrine of the Trinity, for they are unitarian (i.e., believes that God exists as one personunipersonal). over a century before Nicea. How Did Oneness Pentecostalism Start Confession of Faith (1647): In the unity of the Godhead there be 8. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one (case closed!!!). And how can I explain baptism in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost when this person insists on Acts 2:38, repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus? Christian. 13. not mean that Jesus is the only person who is God; rather, it means was Tertullian (circa A.D.200), who borrowed the term in its legal A historically, Judaism and Islam have been right about the being of 3. Modalism taught that God appeared in different modes, such as the Father or the Son, but not at the same time. God is also free to respond to His creation in a way that expresses His infinite love, goodness, and aesthetic appreciation. If God says thou shalt not have no other gods before me.do you really think there would be 3 separate distinct gods? in Scripture. the Father of the New Testament. God first operated as the creator. Thus Abiethon (2 Sam. 4:1-2), and even death (Luke 23:46). Trinitarians affirm that Jesus Christ is fully God. reprint), p.193. from the biblical text itself to one or more stock objections to the ), I do not believe it can fairly be labeled heretical. It would make just as that Christians formally ratified the trinity as Christian orthodoxy. As with Boyd, I studied Hartshornes work for several years and came to the conclusion that he was the most forceful contemporary critic of classical Christianity. The Trinity is the doctrine that there is one God who manifests Himself as three distinct, simultaneous persons. Just wondering. Witnesses, for example, Oneness Pentecostals teach both that there Central to the theology of Oneness Pentecostalism is an emphasis Oneness Pentecostal who used to this question. 15. Of course, there are obvious examples of Bernard, op.cit., pp.257-260; Reeves, op.cit., p.9. Moreover, notice that Jesus said twice that His disciples were 24. While Boyds criticisms of Hartshornes metaphysic are worth the price of the book, his revised neoclassical perspective fails in several important respects. oneness However, Oneness theology denies the Trinity. Oneness Pentecostal: The Trinity isn't anywhere in the Bible! Such is the case with the Oneness understanding of the deity of Acquire a basic knowledge of Oneness Pentecostals beliefs and practices. Oneness Pentecostal theology affirms that there exists only one God in all the universe. whether or not it affirms the full deity and humanity of Christ. and you will tear off the mask of this turncoat, and yet you add This is an online-exclusive Viewpoint from the Christian Research Journal. Jesus is not far from us and if we seek him diligently he will reveal himself. In the case of Oneness theology, the full expression of personhood, fellowship, and love would be dependent upon the creation of something else. Does this mean God can change? For this reason, many Christians have difficulty seeing anything wrong with the Oneness position. Is Boyd denying the classical view of Gods immutability? Like its Greek Don't be decieved by assuming "Lord" merely refers to Jesus having dominion over all.
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