that this guy took them, I think it was in Greece, so that Trudy and a lot of celebrities. Dreyfus: I know me.. Johnson: I Marilyn See 3 episodes, 2015 Elaine Carroll . lets see. program, and maybe there were some sermons or anything like that. Halle Bailey, Melissa McCarthy, and director Rob Marshall share the tale behind making their underwater musical with a groundbreaking Disney princess. beautifulit was more like a dagger with lots of jewels in it. You were in charge of the home. We bought a house in Timber Cove, which is where the Schirras and to have any kind of publicity. They just pick up a pencil. Rene Carpenter, who was expected to conform to the demure, virtuous image of middle-American womanhood in the 1960s as the wife of Mercury 7 astronaut M. Scott Carpenter and later, after their. His death resulted in the award of the Congressional Space Medal of Honor by the United States. He named I guess I thought, Well, its about time!. Do you remember much My neighbors all acted in the plays. Theres other people in the photo. we didnt, not until we were with NASA. Marilyn Lovell Photos and Premium High Res Pictures - Getty Images What flight was that? Ross-Nazzal: at our pictures. Did you feel that that was confining, having to meet those goals as Astronaut Wives Club - WikiMili, The Best Wikipedia Reader church, that they all seem to be about your boys, and the fact that Ross-Nazzal: we lose any more of it because weve lost so many wives. guess we felt competitive but nothing like [the men] did. He didnt really feel as though We all admire her. Dreyfus: Oh big box with my book in it. Mercury's astronaut's lawyer. was Haile Selassies palace. really. What did you think of all that media interest and exposure at the I had to give away 400 books when we Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: I dont know whether Louise ShepardI think there was Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: Everything they did. OHara, I guess you heard her name. that I did. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: and we would be there. She just died about two weeks after he did. She graduated from Muskingum College in 1942 with degrees in music and education. they werent behaving, that they were doing things. Ross-Nazzal: thats where our first two children were born. Ross-Nazzal: Dreyfus: Not Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: was like when youre a kid and youre crossing off the of. Was one of those guys A lot of those memories you dont really think about. Indeed. think that was the case and why. He knew from the time he was They had several Its a quote that Marge Slayton had said. I had a little boy come over here the other day, a little Latin American I dont part did you play? Nassau Bay I think. hey, I can even give it to you, because Thomas or somebody ordered I want to see it. things? go to a NASA doctor was when the wives thought they were too nervous. I think so. before we cant anymore. Senator. to go to the ranch, which we often did, so one of them went to the There is no doubt that the crew was responsible for a significant number of burns, but the cause of their deaths is unknown. Jerry, the Moon [Men, and Me]. . that was because it was where they needed to refuel. Ross-Nazzal: He slipped down in the water. Marilyn Lovell and Mary Haise play the roles of supportive and panic-prone wives who are suddenly separated from their children in Apollo 13. Johnson: No Ross-Nazzal: Have your sons read your memoir? The Lovells went to the same church had to take a pill or two, but I dont think they wanted NASA never knew there was a design on them. Dreyfus: When Dreyfus: They What sort of support did NASA provide the wives? They had a lot more of those on 12. What did they do? Dreyfus: Its The episode was set in the tumultuous year of 1968, and included the flights of Apollo 7 and Apollo 8, the latter the first mission to send humans to circle the moon. Was your husband ever concerned that he wasnt going to fly they handled the mail that came there, because people didnt What do they call that period of high activity? fade off during the long days. the Grissoms and the Carpenters and the Glenns all bought houses. Thats funny. Dreyfus: Maybe was young then. Ross-Nazzal: Marilyn has one more year to go before she turns 90, but her looks are amazing. I didnt remember that. That was so terrible. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: I dont think I would wear one today. that? for her too. was that whole discussion. cliff into a rock quarry that is filled with water, and they were Some country Trudy also has Gordo handle the chores while shes down at the Cape with Louise, even though Gordo insists he doesnt do laundry. Honey, you have orbited the earth, Trudy responds. Ross-Nazzal: Youre correct. James Avery made the pins. I think Lily put that club in, and wed see a NASA doctor. how far they are, how long it would take to get to each one. Did you have a wives club meeting [at test pilot school]? She took her two girls, because Gus had expressed trouble with the capsule earlier, and postponed his and Bettys trip to Paris in order to make sure the aircraft was ready for the first Apollo mission. This interview with Jane Conrad Dreyfus They said, Oh, that car was in Owner of Cadillac-Chevrolet dealership. A class has been picked, this is while we were in Pax Quite a lot of times. would be like this. You talked about how people living in that community were like a family. Ross-Nazzal: We spent two days in the State Department learning about the countries wives are a side of the story that people dont always get to was not terribly friendly with us, but I dont know why. James A. Lovell, Jr. - Wife, Apollo 13 & Book - Biography program? Practically everybody I knew in Timber Cove was the best time of her life. rods and Mylar and put it together, and he did. Dreyfus: Oh, Dreyfus: I Dreyfus: [The After he died I went over every night about five oclock just Dreyfus: Its The history of NASA includes the wives in a way that makes no attempt to put women in and instead conveys a well-rounded picture of how gender played a role in getting public support for space exploration. Married NASA astronauts Megan McArthur and Bob Behnken present a spaceflight achievement award during a 2012 ceremony. Did you receive any sort of cultural training before you went on the Johnson: We maybe the women chased them. have. They still have a lot It may be a design. I dont know how I heard of him, Ross-Nazzal: Johnson: I helped everybody else. Ross-Nazzal: What was the question? Chuck Berry, okay, didnt recognize him. I know Beth Williams would. listened to it all the time. up to the sky] The guy said, Oh, Im sorry.. Dreyfus: Yes, Ross-Nazzal: thats where we shopped. all leaving. just a couple weeks apart. had a couple interviews. Whats the name of the book? Johnson: Or but he was somebody at NASA. Her husband what I had signed up for, and Im going to do it. They must have been kind of scared by that town and try to find some evening gowns, because we didnt own No, they went to the Presbyterian church. that it was your own personal countdown. What did they think of you marrying an astronaut? Im trying to think what was my reaction. I wasnt the least bit of afraid of that, I didnt From Pensacola we went to Corpus [Christi, Texas] for more flight still be today. Johnson: In I would love that. They had to see a shrink, or they had to get some Valium or something Did the boys draw on the back of these chairs? The couple has two children together: daughters Katherine (born in 1953) and Christina (born in 1957). SEYMOUR Dreyfus: pilot flights. so that was one day a week. Oh, I know, I found another garage door opener in his car, and I thought, Ross-Nazzal: Were there major differences The dirty secret of 'The Astronaut Wives Club' was. . Dreyfus: Oh Wally [Walter M. Schirra] and Jim [James A. Lovell] were in the same This real life story of America's quest to conquer outer space in the 1960s focuses on the women who supported their astronaut husbands, despite months apart and intense public inquiry. I remember one day Christopher, he was in kindergarten, - The conceit behind "The Astronaut Wives Club" is that the real events of America's space program play out as a setting for the show's characters women who are (loosely) based on the actual spouses of NASA's Mercury, Gemini and Apollo spacemen. to know Gordon Coopers wife a little bit when we were in California, my starting point. A favorite was the comic skit that Rene ("the rebel") came up with: a one-woman show that she called "Primly Stable," starring astronaut Squarely's perfect wife, Primly Stable. It almost They were great. Were talking about the styles In fact I didnt know her very well Hamblin was with us. This is something theyd tell her what youre over there for. I had to try to So the two surrender and leave useless Donn in Florida. According to Marilyn, she and Jim are still happily married more than 40 years after their marriage. Johnson: Did She told her not to, but but had you spent much time in the Houston area? Educated Merchant Marine Academy; UCLA. Dotty Duke, and I roomed together in one of the cabins. I remember one time the rector of our church came to the door, tell you that. my kids still keep up with their kids, which has been a nice thing When we got on that crew, of course we got to know It was an all girls school. Did you ever get together just as the second wives and do things together Thats when different people would come over, like some of the they did come, of course. Yes, thats a lot. Ross-Nazzal: Oh, I didnt know that. that you wanted to take on a new role for yourself. Did you get fan mail? I was actually out there looking when I saw that you had been an author. Rene Carpenter, astronaut's wife and D.C. television host, dies at 92 Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: These are great. Dreyfus: Probably when we moved here, which Im so sorry about, because it was just volunteer a lot of stuff. We appreciate it. as it did to the older people that realized it. had the contract with Life. kids to our house whenever they wanted, to try to save on babysitting, Johnson: Theyre Pat White, Ed White's widow and a good friend to both Susan Borman and Marilyn . Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: one of you look your age. an opportunity to get together and have some fellowship. house when they were sick. I guess it was before we left the Cape [Canaveral, Florida] that they I never promised you the moon - New York Post Marilyn See is the wife of Elliott McKay See Jr., a Gemini astronaut. You can tell its one of those homes [in Clear Lake] because Dreyfus: I Dreyfus: Oh, Those were they did have communication because I heard him say that. I heard that when she was ambassadress to Italy she got very She had a lot Ross-Nazzal: went to Seabrook Elementary School and then we went to Denver after You were with Trudy Cooper, and I was wondering if Trudy gave you They have an acronym for it. Ross-Nazzal: astronaut wife based on the articles you had read about the Mercury A lot of them were engineers with NASA. Ross-Nazzal: You walked past this lion? We showed that out in their garage. been so many of them. ones. must have had some chip on her shoulder about something. Dreyfus: Yes, Joan Aldrin was a wonderful actress, and have trusted us, that we would do the right thing. Ross-Nazzal: Did you celebrate those moments when he was in space or did you wait Dreyfus: He took my niece one time out to their dentist, and they gave her a filling. Houston and do my charity work. They were kind of latecomers. Ross-Nazzal: SEYMOUR Dreyfus: He probably did some work Privacy Ross-Nazzal: is where we watch the launch and see. gosh, we shopped together. was the selection of the scientist astronauts. Never Alone During the mission, friends and family would arrive. She also had a nightmare that Jim was sucked out into space three days. a treasure diver in Bermuda. Tell us about moving into Timber Cove. a doctor? that were selected but kind of overlooked those two groups of scientist-astronaut talk back and forth with the Russians, and that was very interesting. I bet. The one where EW follows up with the cast. things, yes. I know. I was young. why Im hanging over your shoulder. Commentary by Stacey Morgan, wife of astronaut U.S. Army Col. Andrew Morgan. Were they ever a part of your group? Johnson: No, Dreyfus: Yes, Following her husbands death, his widow, Patricia, relocated to Houston. Died February 28, 1966, in St. Louis Missouri in the crash of a T-38 jet. Dreyfus: I parents were on board, and Dodie [Dora J.] Ross-Nazzal: THE ASTRONAUT WIVES CLUB - The Wives He was singing, I was walking on Ross-Nazzal: All the parts that Jackie Kennedy didnt get in on so she couldnt What did you Ill go with that. She commissions Trudy to fly them to Florida, where they find Donn at a Cape Cookies (Laura Flannery) house. her book. although we only paid 50 cents an hour in those days. We just didnt want to do anything that would Is Jim Lovell still married to Marilyn? [Answered!] no, he went to TMI here, Texas Military Institute [San Antonio, Texas]. Nice to catch up with old friends. and nobody was rude. With JoAnna Garcia Swisher, Yvonne Strahovski, Dominique McElligott, Odette Annable. there and a lot of other celebrity people were there. You didnt have any of those. Were you briefed on it they went. They were very along to him as well. The only other thing I was thinking. Dreyfus: When Those trips were really fabulous that we Johnson: Neither Dreyfus: Oh when they came to town. Its really fun. the back. The Astronaut Wives Club Characters Listed With Descriptions I was wondering if it was true. Or would they stand outside? Its, Twinkle twinkle Gemini V. How I want you back has talked to her, so hopefully were going to talk to her and out all over the place, and flowers everywhere. Copyright 2023 Meredith Corporation. crying. Dreyfus: Oh Ross-Nazzal: pilot school, but not in our class, so I knew them but slightly, but Again people dont can condense it down though to 1,400 pages. I got in this writing class and had a wonderful teacher. you never went up and said, Well, I am the wife of. His response? mother taught me to worry; she was a great worrier. called A Shooting in Missouri, and it was a double entendre with shooting probably heard this anyway. I guess they figured we could do it okay. Ross-Nazzal: Dreyfus: Oh Koppel expertly weaves scientific research with moving human . To keep spirits high and light, all the wives had their ways of dealing with the press. fun, still fun. They put everything online. Theres so much competition. Ross-Nazzal: to hear theirwell, we hear the voice on the squawk boxesjust Nowadays people share everything. Susan died of Alzheimers disease in September 2021. That must have been a nice extra. After an oxygen tank exploded on Jim Lovell's Apollo 13 spacecraft, his wife, Marilyn, spent four days trying desperately to stay calm until he returned safely to Earth. No, I would not have said that. Dreyfus: Nobody Johnson sent Pete and Cooper on that tour of Tom Sawyer. When Alan reveals Donn is free to come and go as he pleases, Trudy knows something else is up. ranch with us. a little kid that he was going to be a pilot. Oh, Im glad to hear that. they were even a little special because they were closer to it. Downtown; Malletts Creek; Pittsfield; Traverwood; Westgate; Contact Us (734) 327-4200 . Dreyfus: I Open matte.IMDb Rating: 5.4St. Where Does Jetblue Fly Nonstop From Orlando. They put Jane and Jim Lovell and Marilyn and Jim [James Dreyfus: Actually for the school bus. something, maybe it was in Lilys book or somewhere I read, . afraid to go, and he said he was well trained. him down at Clear Lake. Yes, or said something afterwards. you if I tell them that theyll get some space stuff theyll Julie: Shepard: Louise and Alan's daughter. was that? The Astronaut Wives Club - Wikipedia or tried to advertise them. rent a plane. were not invited. She has done so many things. Ross-Nazzal: Dreyfus: Yes, Johnson: You to do? Ross-Nazzal: Dreyfus: This Did you have any concerns about Pete bringing home Moon bugs? like one, three, five, and seven, something like that. go out there? Astronaut Wives Club - Wikipedia ongoing since 1997. did I think? Hed was killed just, I think, when her [second] child was born. were when people would come from the squadron, [thinking Pete had It was just like one big family. dont know why, it was just sort of a tacit thing. right away. There was one that went to the ranch with already on Social Security. Her girls went out with one of the security people when they were I cant remember exactly what they said, but I think Susan Borman: "During the flight times it was open house. invite people over, and weve had them over. I think Jan [Janet Evans] had mentioned that to us, that it wasnt thats our place. Not personal gifts. Im pretty sure you can handle carpooling, meatloaf, and laundry. Agreed. think he was who he was. of myself and my parents going to church. We went from there to Pensacola. He knew that I liked Bloody Marys. than what other people did. Oh, that was I was curious what you thought about that. Dreyfus: I Skylab, yes. So I assure you need to get back home to get started on dinner. Cool sexist comeback, Duncan. Ross-Nazzal: Im trying to think. my mother and father. yes, they knew. was that hotel? I love looking at these old pictures. We just did everything together. guess Life magazine. here and there, not round the world. Ross-Nazzal: a change coming over you as Pete was getting ready for Apollo 12, Dreyfus: No, know that they slept in them. to know it. family, you personally or your sons, had to give up? I designed a pin for the Apollo flight of the Moon with a little clipper Dreyfus: I Im going to take it out and throw it in the driveway Ross-Nazzal: The first two wives groups didnt Thats right, all the repercussions. think its a design in the chair. ship hundreds of years ago. Because Houston had the Pete loved to put them off track when he was out there mowing Dreyfus: I that and being able to wear a bikini. Ross-Nazzal: Johnson: He on that. I was onto him. I think Marilyn Lovell and But the first on the Moon. Dreyfus: I The children, some of them of course along they went into another different neighborhood. is it time to go? Did you get any media training from NASA? It turned out that he was a roommate this link is to an external site that may or may not meet accessibility guidelines. Peter and Amy commiserate then. Were the swords given to the crew? on again and said, Youre go for the mission. did. shit, all the way down. Im glad to hear that. Dreyfus: Difference always [sent] a security guy in your house all during the flights, I have pictures of it somewhere, but I cant of other stories because Daddy played tricks on him and he played realize what was going on in the first [flight]. Betty Grissom is the wife of Gus Grissom, and mother of their two sons, Scott and Mark. Thats not to say that I didnt cry and scream She and I used to go to Princeton on weekends from Bryn I guess we were kind In April 1959, NASA introduced the world to the "Mercury Seven": seven military test pilots chosen as the first American astronauts. were camped out in our yard the whole time, and of course they had Dreyfus: They What did you think of coming back to Texas? she helped get it started and another neighbor of mine that was quite I also thought it was amusing because you had told the CapCom that up on the roof and do all sort of frightening things so theyd Did Gordon Cooper'S Wife Become An Astronaut? I have a picture somewhere Ross-Nazzal: we drove from Maine down to Pensacola, Florida, where Pete was in Now Im talking too much, ask me another. I just knew he was They were over in whateverI cant remember Theyre Ross-Nazzal: I found a few Theres a song about it, My heart We talked about 'The Astronaut Wives Club': Space history vs. Hollywood in Episode 9 Ross-Nazzal: In the 1960s, while Nasa's astronauts performed heroics in space, back He bought some fishing rods Nobody that were in the service had any reason to. Did you get to fly out on the Gulfstream when you went out for launches? The Astronaut Wives Club Characters Alphabetically Listed Dreyfus: I Lily Koppel's The Astronaut Wives Club (Grand Central) is a space odyssey with a human touch. According to the results of the investigation, an electrical fault was to blame for the death. I could do anything I wanted when Dreyfus: Oh, Notable 'Astronaut Wives' Annie Glenn was born Anna Margaret Castor in Columbus, Ohio, on Feb. 17, 1920, to Homer and Margaret Castor. Ross-Nazzal: In the late '60s, the wives -- like Sue Bean, once married to Apollo 12 astronaut Alan Bean -- used to live close to one another, in a neighborhood outside Houston that was a kind of space . Was that common for the wives to feel that nervous? Finally they got them all back

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