Extensive searches were carried out and William was not found. Given the amount of times she uses the word "just" leads me to believe it maybe a speech habit. Maybe she meant to say: the authorities did all this effort and still Karlie is not found, so now I take matters into my own hands. This car drives by Nannas house around the time William was riding his bike on the driveway. That is three hundred seconds. I think she's right (interestingly, she also says "to hear about abductions out here" instead of "abductions to happen out here"). Ehm, there's no evidence that says that hes not, that he, in terms of, theres no evidence to say that hes dead, so for me the best outcome is that William is loved by somebody else, because he deserves to be loved and if he cant be with us, he has to be with someone else who cherishes him and [will], and treats him like their own child.NOTE: The foster parents are "committed Christians" -> maybe she means the best scenario is for William to be in God's hands?INTERVIEWER: And your message to those people if thats the scenario?FOSTER FATHER:Look iif thats the scenario, oh, hm, excuse me, well, or, or i..i..in any scenario, please just give William back and y..you can be the person who can help bring William home.Autumn, Link to a detailed timeline of William's disappearance:https://www.facebook.com/insightpod/posts/timeline-for-story-on-william-tyrrell-%C6%B9%CC%B5%CC%A1%D3%9D%CC%B5%CC%A8%CC%84%CA%92-the-morning-of-the-12th-%C6%B9%CC%B5%CC%A1%D3%9D%CC%B5%CC%A8%CC%84%CA%92-/1503580763000828/Apparently the police have investigated the photo of William on the patio and have confirmed that it was taken at around 9:45 AM that day (other reports say it was taken "within an hour" of William going missing). This extra person has been mentioned once [other daughter] in the emergency call and then never spoken of again.In the emergency call the use of other daughter stands out, because for her to introduce a second daughter we need her to have introduced a first one earlier in her statement, but she didnt. OT: Karlie Guse"Were coming up on ten hours (breathless) and nows the part where Im saying I have to do something because weve had CHP fly over, weve had the, Inyo County, Inyo Mono County Sher-, um, Sheriffs flying over, er, ah. William Tyrrell's complicated family dynamic explained: From foster When she says, And I go in and tell Zac-Karlies not in her bed and so just started to panic and [missing pronoun] got in our cars and just started driving all around. She mentions letting her husband (Karlies dad) know she cant find Karlie, but no mention of alerting her brothers or asking them if theyve seen Karlie. One more comment on the photo question: At one point in her answer the foster mother says:And I look at that picture and I just think, minutes, minutes, and our world has changed.When I read that comment I thought: Minutes, minutes? Only in this case, obviously the cell signal was fine judging from the mother making the emergency phone call! The major question would be if she was there then why did she leave instead of help look for missing William? I dont know what exactly.-The world is cruel and the world is real -> Is that what really happened? It was [like] when a child hurts themselves unexpectedly there's a scream," she recounted to counsel assisting the coroner Gerard Craddock SC on day-two of the inquest "It [felt] like a scream," she said of September 12, 2014, the day he vanished from his foster grandmother's rural property at Kendall, on the NSW mid-north coast. So the phone being at the house makes her untraceable. In a way that seems rather over the top (Thank You to CHP-love you, theyre amazing). But the most interesting part of the above quote is yet to come. And so the precise motivation for their tireless and no doubt expensive advocacy for this little boy remains unclear, beyond their stated goal: to create a safer Australia in every community for all our children. Parents statements connected to William and roads.These quotes are taken from the Police interview previously linked. Share your friends, share my friends, share everybodys but just share the sh*t out of italright? I think in all this green, Ive got to see some red somewhere. Did she ponder the possibility of blaming Williams disappearance on suspicious strangers? The language seems very defensive and is followed with an explanation of why he wouldnt have done it. And, um, we are going to potentially have the helicopter do the search over a very large area so far, all the way around us, all the way down to, like, Laws. I wonder: is she herself trying to send us a message between the lines? She uses the word lie rather than truth. It's a kind of intelligence. I hold my hand up to my mistake. What is interesting is that SA would not detect this lie although it detects so much more than body language does, this one would have slipped by. He is standing up, she can see his part. But none are so omnipresent as William Tyrrell, who went missing from the front yard of his foster grandmothers home in Kendall, on the New South Wales mid-north coast, on September 12, 2014. )She then tells and shows how, when she want to "close the door" it would slam closed. Why did she include that?When I first looked into this case I thought something similar: did Nanna have another daughter? Similarity with William's mother saying "he hit his head". As early as 7 AM the foster mother opens the curtains and supposedly sees two suspicious cars (aged and unkempt) on the road opposite Nanna's house. Love for her Facebook friends expressed. The entire situation is sad. Unless William was under a car. Although I am not convinced of that. If that is the case, she at one point had to part with him and may have caressed the top of his head. Why does she think Karlie is not in the desert? Melissa mentioned that they would potentially have the helicopter do the search all the way down to, like, Laws. Cologne, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany Monthly Weather | AccuWeather The operator maybe already knew by that point in her questioning, that the mother wouldnt know her sons height. February - DCIJubelin is removed from the investigation amid a misconduct probe. Some car swapping may have gone on. That could give us a good focus point in the timeline.I think I am on to something major but before I say anything I want to confirm how many people were at the house at the time of Williams disappearance. I usually dont become emotional when seeing people cry due to numbness from PTSD, but I literally felt her painso incredibly sadshe is gutted by the loss of William. The image has a 'created time' of 7.39am and a 'corrected time' of 9.37am, a new document from the 2000-page evidence brief. If you heard something in the woods which sounded like a bird you would say it sounded like a bird. Their parents do. A magistrate has also set down for hearing in January charges laid against both the foster mother and the foster father. Why would the foster mother insist if William didnt want to? September 6- The Nine Network's 60 Minutes reveal two suspicious cars were parked on the street the morning William went missing. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. That stands out because by her making commitment to her other statements with I her sudden change to you becomes noticeable. "I just went, 'There were two cars there.' I agree with you, they are identifying the thing they say they know nothing about. Operator: OK, so I've got the nearest cross street being Ellendale crescent, is that right? The foster mother, who has a sister and two brothers, had intervened in a minor squabble between two of her siblings over property stored at her mother's Kendall house ahead of its proposed imminent sale. [She was awake]This is a very good example on the use of the word just and also on how telling a direct lie can cause leaks in spoken word or body language. A car has been seized from a property in Sydney as part of fresh investigations into the disappearance of William Tyrrell seven years ago. Thats, thats what I,I, Ibelieve, I truly believe now, and I,I, I still pray to this day that hes alive.If he isn't a stutterer, then what he "believes" is very sensitive.We have the "bush" cropping up again along with "down the path" Was it his foster mother that used this language, too.-David, Could "down the path" refer to Nanna's driveway? The foster mother suddenly remembering that she saw three suspicious cars (three is the number of liars) nearby and even exchanging weird glances with one of the drivers also fits the kidnapper scenario perfectly. Since there is a Little Tara, who is Big Tara?Was William Big Tara? In the transcript (thanks Autumn) they talk about tree's and how he doesn't like heights Did he fall?if he was out there in the bush, he would have been found, which you know, as I was walking through the bush with other people, it became more aware to me as time went on that this is not a normal event. Did they break or take a turn at Laws to hide Karlies body?-I know her and she wouldnt leave for this long! I heard from him once when he got out, I felt so bad because he had nothing.'. What is interesting is that Melissa introduces the word murderer. William's hair is long now and can be parted? If police have shared information with a family, it could cause someone to speak in the past tense.Factors:Time: how much time has passed? The operator, still trying to elicit a timeline from her, offers So hes been missing since about 10:30? ,and the mother takes him up on it, yeah. Sometimes it gets stronger as you get older. I`m just wondering if there`s anything else you want me to tell Caylee because everybody -- you know I always get an opportunity to speak to the media. "At every opportunity, they have done everything to degrade our privacy," the foster mother said. "and she's just there, she was just hanging out. Then shaving it off? This other daughter could have been visiting her grandmother at the same time as William and other family members.As far as I am aware on the morning of Williams disappearance there was the mother, father, grandmother and Williams sister at the property. OT-Karlie GuseMelissa Guse Facebook Live #1 October 13, 2018 @4:30 p.m.She didnt take her cell phone Said in the negative as opposed to her cell phones still here. April 17 - Police say the boy may have been a victim of a paedophile ring. hear. By not telling the truth (i.m.o. William Tyrrell (born 26 June 2011) is an Australian boy who disappeared at the age of three from Kendall, New South Wales, on 12 September 2014. Was he ever even there? Were there terrible storms? Their testimony was followed by a statement from William's biological parents, read out by their lawyer Michelle Swift, who was joined in the witness box by the biological grandmother. I mean, I was awake and then Id doze off and she's just there, she was just hanging out. Her mom also said that Melissa's car was in the shop two days after the disappearance with front end damage. Melissa reached out to Sean Hannity via Facebook on the day Karlie went missing, see below and here"Dear Hannity,My name is Melissa Guse and my husband is Zachary guse. And those of us that live here, you're dehydrated, you're thirsty, you're hungry. The charges come as police spend a third day searching three areas in Kendall, on the NSW Mid-North Coast, for Williams body. And on Wednesday they won again, when the Court of Appeal upheld that ruling. nothing.Voice over: What was the very last you saw or heard of William? Foster mother: That was it. In 2016, despite the foster parents' and FACS' argument against it, the NSW Supreme Court granted Ms Smith's application to reveal William as a fostered child at the time of his disappearance. Brief Life History of William. State park. William Tyrrell was last seen playing at his foster grandmothers home in northern New South Wales in September 2014, when he was three years old. So there are simply more opportunities for mothers to cause accidents to their children (compared to fathers).Adrian, in the police interview the foster mother says "No" when the foster dad says the last time he saw William was 10:15 AM (it's not in the transcript). Already getting in the party mood! William Tyrrell Was In Foster Care. And, theyre amazing, and, um, several Mono County Sheriffs and, I see all your faces popping up and it makes me want to cry, I love you guys! If his hair was longer, shaved, etc. So if Zachary indeed said that, maybe he wanted to steer attention in a direction opposite from Karlies actual location? Karlie may be dead but she wants her story to survive, or, maybe the facade of the story so there is no legal trouble and public judgment for Melissa and Zac. I mean honestly, not really hopeless but more helpless because I can`t do anything from where I`m at. Just is a fascinating word. It is an outright deception for them to say we have [no] idea. I can feel it. She does not say she was lying next to me or something similar but uses the word there which leaves the listener having to make an assumption about where there is. Adrian. The foster parents fought hard to keep their names suppressed from the media. Add articles to your saved list and come back to them any time. Realizing just in time she shouldnt give such details she quickly switched to Nanna and her daughter/other child (this switch may have also caused her to say other-> as in: other than William). The danger seems to be that they can take things a little far and overplay things. Yes good point,what was washed in the washing machine? Im walking around in a circle on the spot thinking, where is he, why cant I see him, and Im yelling out, William, where are you, you need to talk to Mummy, tell me where you are, I cant see you, I cant hear you, where are you?, ()If William had just disappeared and the foster mother was looking for him, why would she walk in a circle on the spot asking herself why cant I see him. The question produced a halting or repetition on the word "no", which increases the import of the question. We have to take their words literally which leaves us with people who are doing something without connecting it to a reason why. It would be interesting to know where the dogs did lead the Police because there must have been some scent to follow.The statement you posted:I know in hindsight that they werent there but whilst I was searching I didnt. That wouldnt accomplish anything. January 20 - Police search the home and business of washing machine repairman Bill Spedding, who had been due to carry out repairs at the house at the time the three-year-old went missing. Her mention of bathroom, teeth and wash and door.I had to go to the bathroom, brush my teeth, wash my face her door was open all nightReferences to water and doors are related to sexual abuse, doors and the opening of doors are related to childhood sexual abuse. September 21 - Police stop searching for the missing boy after scouring surrounding bushland and neighbouring houses. He knows me, said Pence, who served as governor of Indiana when Buttigieg came out as gay during his reelection campaign for mayor.Does that sound like a threat? "Out" as in "dead"? Missing boy William Tyrrell had been "handpicked" to be shuffled off for adoption and had a doomed life even before he was abducted, a child welfare advocate claims. That fact is now public knowledge because the New South Wales Supreme Court on Wednesday allowed a small, Facebook group called Walking Warriors 4 Missing Children to publish it. We expect an honest person to say two officer without the extra word just inserted. A month later, he was located at the home of a relative, then taken into foster care, the Coroner's Court at Lidcombe heard on Monday morning. Mamamia contacted the group, but they were unable to respond in time for publishing. A senior detective has told a court he believes the former foster mother of missing boy William Tyrrell knows where he is. We notice that she needs us to know where D had come back from. I spoke for myself I responded to Peter's comment about a comment and said that I appreciate that type of comment as well. We could consider its misspelling accidental but it could also be a subconsciously guided mistake. On Thursday they picked William and his sister up from daycare for the 4-hour drive to Nanna's house. It`s just very hard. European courthouses don't give victims justice, they have compassion with criminals.A Belgian judge let two twin boys free because he wasnt able to determine which of the two was the one who hit the bouncer while the other tried to calm his brother. In general it would be fair to say we always see something so in this case we expect I saw he was gone etc.. The natural question is did Melissa hit Karlie with her car? Did he take William(s body) somewhere while he was away (William was with me, William was with me)?Autumn, Do we know what "jobs" the foster father ran in town? Also why does she say We know nothing about it instead of We know nothing -> what is it (to me it seems to imply that they know something)?Autumn, Below is a transcript of part of the 60 minutes interview with the foster parents (see here as from 6:44):Foster mother: We wake up, ehm, we hear giggling and laughter and me telling everybody to be quiet and not wake up Nanna cause Nanna was still asleep.Voice over: On that morning William dresses in his favorite Spiderman outfit. Also: there's the word "just" again. What circumstances envelop the missing person? : I went out, down through all these ferns, hes not there. He denies any wrongdoing whatsover, August: The second tranche of inquest hearings began on Wednesday August 7. With member Allanna Smith at the helm, they have spent months in a legal battle for the right to reveal that William was in the care of the Department of Family and Community Services under the Minister Pru Goward when he went missing. If she says she doesnt have a physical description of a vehicle, that might imply that there was a vehicle -> she just doesnt (or wont) give a physical description. "Because of some of the media, the world is blaming us, we have had six years of pain and broken promises," Ms Swift told the court on behalf of the family. This is what is on her mind. There is a substantial public interest in accountability and scrutiny of the out-of-home care system, and in accuracy of reportage of the circumstances of Julian's disappearance," the Judge said. Asked for any other distinguishing features she also describes something on his head hes got a freckle on the top of his head when you part. She was supposed to be at a football game. "he would be" indicates that she has absolutely no idea about what happened, how he is doing. Watched a movie and she was just still kind of paranoid. We dont know who that someone else is but we can deduce it from her language. Operator: OK.Foster Mother: Ah, I thought it could be five, it could be longer 'cause he was just playing around here we heard him and then we heard nothing. A quick, high pitched and sharp scream. Once the lying starts it can never stop. One is a person who saying a lot but telling us nothing and the other is someone who has a need to tell us something but only when they have a need to convince. I couldnt see him, I couldnt hear him, it was the world, you, its like, the world just came to a [screaming halt], I just, there was no wind, there was no birds, there was no movement there was nothing.She tells us what she "couldn't see" and what she "couldn't hear".
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